Keshe解释灵魂与精神的区别（中文版）

我们是如何被创造的：灵魂和精神的区别

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RAFAEL TEIXEIRA·2021年4月21日周三

意大利广播电台11.11对凯史先生的采访摘录 2021年04月14日

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摘要

在一次意大利电台采访中，Keshe先生被要求从他的角度详细解释灵魂和精神之间的区别。有趣的是，这个问题是从概念的角度提出的。在西方的精神信仰中，人们希望以具体的方式来定义术语。相反，Keshe先生漂亮地解释了现实中的创造是如何产生的。

问：安东尼娅再次询问了关于灵魂的一些细节......对你来说，你怎么看，你怎么解释灵魂和精神？翻译补充说，你可以用意识来代替精神。

K- 你可以用不同的方式来看待它，而不是我们看待它的方式。我从科学的角度看它。首先你要明白，我不是一个宗教的人，因为当你深入了解创造的知识时，宗教就成为科学的一部分。当你理解了这些知识，你就可以用科学来解释宗教。但在宗教的世界里，他们只谈论精神、灵魂、天堂和地狱，以及造物主（期望你相信他们所说的）这都是好的，但是当你不明白这些真正的意思时，那么他们就可以用这些辞藻践踏你（滥用）。

当你达到理解创造过程的周期时，你清楚地看到创造有一个模式，同样的过程一次又一次地重复，它不可能有任何不同，因为创造是由我们所说的场的流动的相互作用而产生的，这就像水，河流的流动或风的流动。

在现实中，创造来自于不同M磁力场的相互作用，但它给你展现的不同效果和不同表现，这取决于它们有多强以及有多少，但在它们的本质上创造的过程是相同的。

在科学的世界里，我们解释说必须有一个源头，我们把这个源头称为 "原则"，或者一个创造者，也有人称它为上帝，当源头从它本身到一个点，我们称之为 "过渡"，当它到达某个地方的某一点时，然后在与另一个环境和其他场的相互作用中，它将自己表现为某种东西，当它变得明显时我们称之为 "物质"，我们可以看到、感觉到和探测到的物质。

因此，例如，我们有太阳作为来源，太阳的光线（过渡）在太阳系的范围内穿梭旅行，并在与其他事物的相互作用中成为物质或粒子，它们聚集在一起，创造了像地球这样的行星，地球通过其自身条件的（场体相互作用）创造出来了生命，那么，我们的生命是另一个聚集一些场的过程，然后才表现为人的物理身体。因此，这个过程始终是相同的。太阳系有一个太阳，当它的场辐射出来，然后降速，就会出现月亮、地球和其他的东西。

对人的身体来说，这不可能有什么不同。人的身体必须也是有一个太阳，一个源头，这个源头的场与环境相互作用，也就是地球的大气层，或母亲的子宫，来表现为人的物质身体，如果我们有一个太阳系，它的中心有一个太阳，这样它就可以表现为一个太阳系，同样，人的灵魂（STM）也必须在人的身体里，这就是先知们所解释的，不幸的是，这些并不是宗教人士和祭司们一直在告诉我们的那样，所以他们似乎自己从来就没有理解过这些知识。

STM在人的体内，非常强大。它是一个太阳，它与地球的M场相互作用，创造了人的身体物理性质，太阳本身有一个灵魂，地球的物理性也有自己的灵魂，因此人的体性当中也有自己的灵魂，我们把个体性的灵魂（STP）称为精神，身体内的STM，是灵魂。

同样，太阳系有一个太阳，它有自己的心跳，有自己的特点，它的场在这个太阳系的范围内，它们在宇宙中冷却下来，为自己创造了一个外壳，我们称之为太阳系。在这种减速中，地球、月球和任何东西得到了创造。月亮、地球、太阳，都有自己的灵魂，因为它们有自己的存在，有自己的物理性质。

现在你试图向我解释什么是灵魂，什么是精神。

人的精神是他（身体）的灵魂，它是运行我们身体的东西，STM在人的大脑中心。现在我们可以从科学的角度来解释它，因为我们知道太阳有一种力量，它使太阳。地球也有一种力量，它使地球。我们知道STM也有一种力量。我们可以增加它，我们可以从它那里获取，我们可以支持它，并以此支持人的STP，也就是你们所说的精神。

它必须被解释。现在我把它留给你来翻译，等你说完我就去喝杯茶。

问：哇哦！你是怎么做到的？

K- 现在你明白了灵魂和精神之间的区别。这就是为什么神职人员或牧师永远无法回答我们的，现在我们通过科学知道了答案，在科学的方式上我们可以解释。

这就是为什么我给你们甘斯，可以提升你身体的灵魂，因为有了它，你与STM互动，两者的互动就是你所说的情感，我可以与你的情绪互动，我可以复制你的情绪并提升它们。

新的科学的美妙之处在于，我们再也不可能造假了，我们不能被神职人员再告知那些谎言，因为他们中的许多人甚至从未读过Book of God-神之书，他们只是编造他们所喜欢的事物，那么现在你明白了什么是灵魂，什么是精神。现在我们有了这些知识那我们就可以与他们来互动，我们可以在他们的强度上去创造出场去提升他们。

现在你去向教皇解释这一点给他们听，然后看看他是否还能继续当教皇，或者也许他会放下他的帽子说"是的，人类已经发现了自己的真相"。

问：那就真是太好了。

K-如果你去到那儿......

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English Transcription:

Difference between Soul and Spirit -

(1:00).

Q: Antonia asked again some detail about the soul … what for you, how do see, how do you interpret soul and spirit? Q: Instead of spirit you can speak about consciousness.

K- There are different ways, then the way we look at it, or the way I look at it, from the scientific point of view. You got to understand, (1:02). I am not a man of religion, because when you go to the depth of the knowledge of creation, religion becomes part of the science. You understand what you call religion as part of the science, because then you can explain it. In the world of religion, they speak about the spirit, soul, heaven and hell, and they speak about the Creator. This is all good. Because when you don't understand it, they can abuse you with these words. But when you reach the cycle of understanding the process of creation, and you see the same process repeats itself in the same pattern, then you understand creation has a pattern. Cannot be any different, because the creation is created out of interaction of rivers of what we call, fields. If they be rivers of water, rivers of wind, but in reality the creation is from interaction of different M fields, and depends how strong they are, and depends how much of it, then it gives you different effects. It gives you different manifestations. But in different essence, all of them the process is the same. So in the world of science we explain, there has to be a source, we call it, a Principle, we call it a Creator, we call it a God. When this source travels from its source to a point, which is in transition, (1:04). and then at a certain point somewhere, in interaction with another environment, another fields, manifest's itself as something. So it becomes manifested, we call it, matter. We see it, we can detect it, we can feel it. So we have the sun, the rays of the sun as a source, travel the span of the solar system, in interaction with other things becomes pieces, becomes matter, matters come together creates planet earth, planet earth on condition of itself, creates life. And our life is another process for gathering some fields, then it manifests itself as a physicality of the man. So the process is always the same. The solar system has a sun, and then when it slows down, it appears as moon, earth, whatever.

So they cannot be any different for the body of the man. The body of the man has to have a sun, has to have a source, that the interaction of the field of this source with its environment, which is the earth's atmospheric condition, the womb of the mother, manifests itself as a physicality of the man. So if we have a solar system, which has got a sun in the center that it can manifest itself as a solar system, so the Soul of the Man (STM) has to be inside the body of the man. So whatever the priest, whatever religious people have been telling us, because they never understood by themselves, they were explained by the prophets, so the STM is inside the man, very powerful, it's a sun, and its interaction with the M field of the earth creates the physicality of the man. Sun has a soul of itself, and so the physicality of the earth has a soul of itself, so physicality of the man has a soul of itself. (1:06). The Soul of the Physicality (STP) we call it spirit. The STM inside the sun, is the soul. So we, the solar system has a sun, which has its own heartbeat, its own characteristics, travels the span of this solar system, cools down in the U, creates it shell, what we call the solar system, and in that slowing down creates earth, moon, whatever, and then moon, earth, sun, have their own soul, because they have their own existence, their own physicality.

So now you try to explain to me what is the soul and what is the spirit. The spirit of the man is the Soul of his (Physicality), is what runs our physicality, and the STM is in the center of the brain of the man. Now scientifically we can explain it, and because we know sun has a strength which makes the sun. Earth has a strength which makes the earth. We know the STM has a strength too. We can add to it, we can take from it, we can support it, and with that we support the STP of the man you call it the spirit. So it had to be explained. Now I leave it to you, and I go for a cup of tea by the time you finish.

Q: Wow!

K- Now you understand the difference between the soul and the spirit. This is why the priest, the clergy, could never answer us. Now we know the answer through science. Scientifically we can do it. That's why I can give a Gans that it elevates the soul of your physicality, (1:08). with it you interact with the STM, which you call the interaction of the two, the emotion. I can interact with your emotions, I can copy your emotions and elevate it. This is the beauty of the new science, we can't fake it anymore, we can't be told lies by clergy, whatever they want, because they themselves cannot even read the Book of God, they just made whatever they like. So now you understand what a soul is and what a spirit is. Now we have the knowledge, we can interact with them, we can create the fields which is their strength, to elevate them. So now you go and explain this to the Pope and see if he still stays a Pope, or he puts his hat down and says, yes, man has found his truth about himself.

Q: That would be nice..

K- If you go there, and see if your head is on your neck by the time you walk out.

精神就是一个人的精气神，也体现出一个人的灵魂的深度。

灵魂，是寄居在身体这个容器里的过客，仿佛随时可以离开。

意识是心理学的范畴，意识和物质如硬币的两面，意识是一个人思维波动的片断，犹如流水不间断，但上一滴水和下一滴水截然不同，呈现出流线型的变化。

三者本质上没有什么不同，只是从各个侧面阐述同一样东西。精神不死，灵魂不死，意识也不死。